… That was the goal of why we started a band, not to be famous or make money, but to go on tour. So for us making records is more of an excuse for us to go on tour and play the songs for people. So going on tour at first was a dream come true, just doing that alone … it felt like we had made it. We toured for so long because we didn’t want it to end. We wanted to tour for so long that we had to make a new record just to keep touring. That was part of the motivation — actually, the primary motivation — for making a new record.